Article and Interview by: Debbie Stokes
Yes, we are all dealing with the effects of the Covid-19 crisis.
For some, we are being pushed to the brink. Some are fighting with depression. Some with lonliness. Some with boredom. Some with feelings of uncertainty. Some with fear.
Then, there are those who are using their adaptibility skills to cope and adjust to their new routines and reality.
In addition, some are discovering and learning new things about themselves they never could have imagined they were capable of doing or experiencing. New talents. New ideas. New beginnings. New endings.
For most, the story is still being written. Minute-by-minute and day-by-day.
Who knows how the ending will read.
The truth is… God knows.
One of the most important things to note about what we are experiencing during these challenging times is that God is still in control. He reigns.
God is our refuge and strength,
A very present help in trouble.
Therefore we will not fear… Psalm 46: 1-2
Knowing that fact, we must hold on to our faith.
Meet Kirsten Dunn. She is a women who has been through many storms, and yet, her faith has been unwavering. She is going to talk to you about faith, being spiritually connected, and how you have everything you need inside of you to get through your storms.
1) Explain what Christian spirituality means to you.
Oh Debbie, this is a loaded question.
It literally means I am a follower of Christ. I believe Jesus Christ died for me. He died for me to give me time. He died for me to give me eternal life. So, true Christianity for me is being a follower of Christ and really believing in the message he portrayed with his life; not just with words because words don’t teach… but with his actions and the way he lived. He showed me how I’m supposed to live, he showed me how life is supposed to be portrayed, and he showed me how much he loved me.
When you say Christian, it means I am a follower of Christ, of his methods, and of his teachings and the actions he showed.
And then you go into spirituality. That’s two power-packed field words in one sentence. How do you put that together and not explain it separately?
So, being a follower of Christ, I understand I am a spirit. I just happen to live in a body. I am a spirit having a human experience. I’m not a human having a spiritual experience. Even after my human experience ends, my spirit still lives and I truly believe that. I believe we have this spiritual world, and in our human experience, we have access to the spiritual world simply because we are a spirit. With me being a spirit, I just happen to be a spirit that chooses to believe Christ is the lead example of how I’m supposed to live my life.
I found out a few years ago my name, Kirsten, means one who follows Christ. I don’t know if my mother knew that when she named, but I literally have always had this very strong relationship with God throughout my life. I could hear his voice and it was never a struggle to do that. I think it’s because I’m called to follow Christ. I’m designed to follow Christ.
I’m just coming into my spirituality. I truly believe you can’t be a Christian and have no idea about spirituality. It’s understanding who you are; and that’s not about what you do, but who are you? That’s spirituality… understanding I am a spirit that happens to live in a body. I am a spirit being that came into this human experience with some clear understandings about what I wanted to do in this human experience even before I came.
2) Why do you say it’s a sin to be poor?
We must first answer what is sin? Sin is simply seperation from god and his way of being and doing. God is limitless and He is source. When we are poor, we are seperated from God and his way of being and doing; and I must say, we can be poor mentally, spirtually, physically, financially, and relationally. So, not to give anyone shame—just encourgment to know and accept the truth and to take inspired action accordingly.
3) How has having faith gotten you through your dark times?
Faith is my anchor. What I love about faith is it is not dependant on anything external. So, fath is my ice-cold water on a 90 degree day. It is simply refreshing.
4) How important is it for people to have a spiritual connection in their lives?
I am a spirit having a human expience. If you don’t understand and live through your spiritual expierence, you will never learn yourself. You must understand you’re spirit because it is you—period.
5) What drives you?
Your questions are giving me life. I love evaluating and teaching myself more and more about me. Love drives me. I love—love. God is love, and I love God. I love people. I love my short people and tiny giant (my sons). I love my future husband. I love my many careers and the way I am able to help people daily. Love drives me.
6) What keeps you grounded?
The healthy perspective I often gain in meditation keeps me grounded. I have learned to not let anyone or anything be the grounding force in my life. All that I need is in me. God is source and He lives in me. So, when I practice daily meditation as a discipline and I make sure I get aligned with my true self; I realign with a healthy perspective and it keeps me grounded.
7) What spiritual lessons have you learned?
I have learned “I am that I am” lives in me. I love knowing the power that creates worlds live on the inside of me. I have learned: I am the creator of my own reality. I have the power. I am never powerless. “I am” is my source. I could do this all day.
8) What do you say to people who say money and spirituality don’t mix?
I would tell them, I can understand why they feel and think that way. I would then go on to encourge them to understand money is just an energy—money is not source. We are source conduits; and source (God) wants to, and for those that allow him, he wants to flow through us. So to say money and spirituallity don’t mix is to say you don’t understand money and what it is. Money is just energy. God is source and source (God) lives in us and in our spirits. I am a spirit being having a human experience.
9) Tell us a story of when you questioned whether God was in the middle of It, and when he revealed to you he was right there.
Before I knew who I was (I am a spirit having a human expierence), I questioned God alot. One day, I was working nonstop and my boys were still in public school, so I would drop them at school. I would have a nanny keep them in the evening until my husband would come home. I would not make it home until 9 pm, and sometimes 10 pm. I would never see them, and when I did, I was so exhausted I would snap at them. All they wanted was for me to spend time with them.
At that time, I was running my mobile opitcal company seeing patients. My little company donated over 1,000 free pairs of glasses to kids in need all over the metroplex. I was blessing anyone I could possibly bless, but suffering in my household. I would give my best to my patients and struggle to make ends meet in my household. I was giving thousands of dollars to the church, but not seeing any change in my financial status. I would talk to God, but I had no idea who I was. I thought I had faith, but what I really had was religion.
One evening, I pulled into my driveway, it was pitch dark outside. No one had taken the trash out, so I turned on my cell phone light and in my heels proceeded around the house to take out the trash. The heel of my shoe got caught in the mud and I literally was stuck. I broke down crying and I begin to literally yell at God—”I tithe to you. I give so unselfishly. You see the way I serve my community. I am killing myself to do it all right—give me a break God. I need you to give me a freaking break.”
I heard God tell me something that night I will never forget, “I never told you to do it this way? Who are you?”
It was at that moment my life begin to change. I refused to be chained to religion ever again. I understand who I am today, even with all that is happening in our world right now. The economy might be taking a downturn, but I will always prosper. I know who I am, and I know who lives in me. I love the power that creates worlds lives on the inside of me.
10) What are you grateful for?
I am grateful for time. It is my highest commodity. I am grateful for God choosing to design us the way He did. I love being a conduit of source energy. I am grateful for me; I love me. I am a dope chick. The more I get to know me, the more in love I fall. I am grateful for my children. I am so excited they choose to come to this earth and be in my presence. They are truly amazing beings. I am grateful for you, Debbie. It takes courage to follow your dreams and be a content provder for women. You are doing a fabulous job. I am sincerely grateful. I am grateful for every woman who reads this article and chooses to receive life, and for every woman that chooses to get to know her true self. I am truly grateful.
11) What would you say to people who questions if God hears their cries for help?
You are reading this; he heard you. Be still. Get quiet. Refuse any forced thought—now listen to inspired thoughts. It’s all love—source energy (God ) loves you and he is in you. He hears you.
12) Give some real-life examples that women can take to help strengthen their faith.
Super important – medidate everyday. master the art of meditation because your life does depend on it. Meditation is simply quieting your mind to allow source energy (God), your spirit (you), your body, and your conscious and subconscious mind to all line up. So, allow “all of you” to line up. You will gain total control of your life and manifest your dreams.
Also, I would ask – what do you want? One of the best ways to get to know you is to clearly define what you want. Stop being afraid to express what you want out of fear. You can have it. Source’s (God) answer is always yes and Amen. Get aligned and ask for what you want. Often, we accept things we don’t want because we don’t know what we want.
13) What is an empowering story in the bible that motivates you to keep going?
Oh so many—I think my favorite is the story of the woman at the well. Jesus spoke to her, the true her, her spirit. She left the well and instantly went into ministry.
14) What words of encouragement can you give to women to help empower them?
What you need is not outside of you. Wayne Dyer told a story and I have my own rendition of it, so I want to share it with you.
A woman named Ashley had just moved to texas from Oklahoma. She was super excited about her move because she was finally able to get away from an abusive relationship, get a fresh start, and a fresh outlook on life. She found a really cute duplex, which was the perfect size for her and her children. An agency helped pay for all of her moving expenses; they even gave her some gorgeous, gently used furniture. The only thing Ashley was repsonsibile for was her utilites.
One afternoon after unpacking the kitchen, in sheer exhaustion, she laid down to take a nap. When she woke up, it was pitch dark in the house. She went to cut on the lights and the lights were not working. Immediately, she thought, “I forgot to the pay the electricity deposit.” Ashley scurried through the house in the dark to locate her car keys.
“Yes I found them,” she said lunging towards the front door. In a rush to make it to to the local payment center to make the deposit payment, she stumbled and tripped on a box or some solid object in the floor, and dropped her car keys.
“Dang it!” Ashley carefully got off the floor, only to have a vivid flash back of the times when her abuser made her sit in a dark room after brutally beating her. In a bit of a haze, Ashley looked outside and saw a bright, well-lit street light. So, she found her way to the front door and went outside under the street light. While standing under the warm light, she began looking for her car keys. A neighbor came out and greeted Ashley, “Hi what are you doing?” Ashley replied timidly, “Looking for my car keys.”
“Well I can help you look,” said the friendly neighbor. “Where did you leave them?”
Feeling really stupid, Ashley replied in a shaky voice, “I lost them inside the house and my electricity is out.”
“No worries,” said the neighbor. “Do you have your cell phone? Let’s use the light on your phone to find your keys.”
I am your friendly neighbor today helping you navigagte to understand you already have your solution. Why are you looking outside when you already have all you need in you and with you? You don’t need a new vision. You don’t need a new word from God. He’s been speaking in you and to you. Yes, life has been an abuser. You get pockets of hope. Things change. You move here and there and this works out, and then, that goes terribly wrong. But as your friendly neighbor, let me encourge you to use the light already in you to find the keys. You are enough. You got this!!!
15) How can people reach you?
I offer a free 1 hour business consultation to any business owners who are in the phase of a start up, come up, or blow up (lol). If you need a consultant in business, I can help.
Instagram and Facebook @kirstenelisedunn
*** Also, I (Kirsten) could use your help. I am committed to take “the gift of this time” to get my social media accounts and online presence together so I can connect more with you—the women I am assigned to help, and who are assigned to help me. Please email or message me if you have a service I could benefit from. We are in this together. I look forward to connecting with you soon.